One of the things that stuck in my mind from the last blog's analysis was 2007
The top two films for RT Score and Audience Score were Juno and No Country for Old Men. No Country got the Oscar and the highest RT score, but Juno got the highest Audience Score - this was one of the instances where the hypothesis of the last blog failed.
Now there was something I thought about in passing when I was writing the last blog, but I didn't bother mentioning it. But I thought I'd revisit and look in to it.
So that 'thing' is sample bias - that is, the people voting on films on RT (and creating the audience score) may not be representative of the general population.
I was originally concerned that the users of RT may be predominantly younger people; so then, their opinion and taste would be over-represented in the score. But I dismissed that idea as being a stereotyped view of internet users.
But realistically, it's best not to make assumptions either way if you can get actual details.
Rotten Audience
The are two sites I look at for site demographics. The first is Alexa, which you may have heard of. It has some benefits, but unfortunately for more detailed analysis, they want your money.
The other is Quantcast, which is a lot better, but sometimes their numbers are only estimates (not the case for RT). This is the one I'm using here. Here's what the demographics look like
NB/ this is US only demographics, which make up ~60% of the total visitors to RT. But the results are very similar for other countries.
Percentages to the left of the graphs are the actual distributions of the users. The 'index' numbers to the right show how those distributions compare to the internet as a whole.
Misrepresented Judges
So the 'hypothesis', or at least one the the hypotheses, of the last blog was that the Audience score could in some way be used as a predictor of Oscar winners, in so much as it reflects the 'wide appeal' of the films.
Of course, this only works if the taste of the voting comity for the Best Picture matches well the tastes of the people visiting Rotten Tomatoes and contributing to the Audience Score.
The membership of the Oscar comity is fairly secret, or at least, undisclosed. But we do know it's made up of ~6,000 industry professionals, so it seems safe to assume they're likely predominantly in the 35-60 age group, with maybe an even male/female split. And this could be a source of the weak correlation, since RT users are predominantly in the 18-49 age group - skewed slightly towards younger ages.
But do the different demographics have different tastes in film?
I suppose not necessarily. There are certainly some overlaps between these two groups. But on the other hand, maybe the difference between which films RT users vote highest, and which films gets Oscars is a reflection of these differences in tastes.
As it is, there's no way to manipulate RT Audience scores to better reflect the different demographic make up, and no way to improve on their predictive power.
So just some thoughts.
Oatzy.
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Wednesday, February 09, 2011
Follow Up: Rotten Bias
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Thursday, January 27, 2011
The Oscars Vs. Rotten Tomatoes
What Do Critics Know
This is something I looked at briefly last year. I wondered if there was any correlation between Rotten Tomatoes score - a score based on an aggregate of critic' reviews - and winning an Academy Award for Best Picture. That is, is the highest rated of the nominees for a given year most likely to win?
The short answer is no.
Data Mining
For those interested, the data was collected like this.
First, the list of nominees and winners is copied from Wikipedia. The data is then imported into Google Refine to be tidied up and sorted. Then, still in Refine, the list is reconciled - that is, each film on the list is linked to the appropriate page on FreeBase.
Having been reconciled, extra data can then be pulled from FreeBase; and with a bit of extra coding, the Rotten Tomatoes scores can also be mined.
NB/ some scores had to be input by hand, some scores are unavailable, and there may (but not necessarily) be errors.
You can look at the data here.
Analysis
First of all, I looked at the distribution of scores for winners vs. Nominees
If there were some correlation, you'd expect the winners to be, generally, further to the left than the other noms. But looking at the graph, there's hardly any significant difference. In fact, the proportion of nominees with a score of 100 is greater than that of the winners.
NB/ the numbers were scaled to matching sizes.
I also looked at the number of winners that were the highest rated in their year - this works out at 22%. Which isn't amazing (a little over one fifth). And on top of that, the number of winners that were the lowest rated in their year works out at 18.3% (a little under one fifth).
So as I said in the short answer, there's not much of a correlation.
I also tried working with only the films since 1970, since most of the unavailable scores were for films prior to then. But the results were effectively the same.
Audience Knows Best
I created a few year-wise graphs, such as below (2009-2002)
and looking at them only confirmed the weak correlation between score and winning.
But one in particular stood out - 2005. In 2005, Crash won the award despite being the lowest rated of the nominees. But I'll come back to that.
The other one that got me thinking was 2008 - both Slumdog Millionaire and Milk got a rating of 94.
But it occurred to me that, maybe the reason Slumdog won was because it was more appealing to a wider audience. Think about it; Slumdog is a love story, whose protagonist overcoming adversity and against all odds, gets a happy ending. Milk is a biopic about a politician and gay rights activist who is assassinated. Both are top quality films, but Slumdog has wider appeal. And maybe that's important.
Granted, I'm exaggerating, a little, the weight of the effect of wider appeal for the sake of making my point. But you get the idea.
You have to bear in mind that the Academy Award for Best Picture isn't voted for by a handful of people with a potentially homogeneous taste - it's voted for by a comity of over 5,000 people. So having that wider apeal is going to help.
This would also explain why genre films tend to struggle.
Luckily, Rotten Tomatoes also has an "Audience" rating - a score out of 100, based on audience interest. And sure enough, Slumdog gets a score of 90, versus Milk with 88. Granted, it's a small difference, but it gives some credence to the theory.
So going back to 2005, I checked the Audience scores,
and indeed Crash was the highest audience rated.
Caveats
Firstly, Audience scores fall into two variations - "want to see/not interested", or "liked/disliked". Generally, the older films are in the former category, while the newer are in the latter.
And each of these have their own potential problems.
For the first, the problem is causality - did a film get the Oscar because a because of the wider interest, or are people interested in seeing it because it won an Oscar?
There are also psychological consideration. People are weird; when a film gets a generally strong (or poor) response from critics, this can influence people's opinions - some people like to hate things because everyone loves them. Some people are just influenced by their peers' opinions.
But these aren't really things we can test or adjust for.
The Audience score is also going to be loosely related to the critic score, in as much as they both relate, to some extent, to the films 'quality'.
Statistically Wiser
So as before, we have the score distribution
And, this is more what you'd want to see - the winners having a stronger tendency towards higher scores than the nominees.
Similarly, you can work out how many of the winners were highest rated in their year - in this case 36.6%; double the number for critic score. Similarly, the number ranked lowest in their year drops to 7.3%
And together, this supports the idea that there's a stronger skew towards higher scores, and thus that audience opinion is a better indicator of Oscar winners than critical opinion.
Of course, the better predictive power from the audience score could just be an example of wisdom of the crowd.
Obviously, this still isn't 100% predictive power, or even 50%. So it's far from perfect. I also tried various ways of combining both scores, but wasn't able to significantly improve on the results for audience scores alone.
Prediction 2011
Based on all this, I'd say the smart money for this year would be The King's Speech.
While it's only joint-third highest rated of the year according to the critics, it has the highest audience score of the nominees.
But then, everyone's expecting it to win anyway.
We shall have to wait and see...
Oatzy.
This is something I looked at briefly last year. I wondered if there was any correlation between Rotten Tomatoes score - a score based on an aggregate of critic' reviews - and winning an Academy Award for Best Picture. That is, is the highest rated of the nominees for a given year most likely to win?
The short answer is no.
Data Mining
For those interested, the data was collected like this.
First, the list of nominees and winners is copied from Wikipedia. The data is then imported into Google Refine to be tidied up and sorted. Then, still in Refine, the list is reconciled - that is, each film on the list is linked to the appropriate page on FreeBase.
Having been reconciled, extra data can then be pulled from FreeBase; and with a bit of extra coding, the Rotten Tomatoes scores can also be mined.
NB/ some scores had to be input by hand, some scores are unavailable, and there may (but not necessarily) be errors.
You can look at the data here.
Analysis
First of all, I looked at the distribution of scores for winners vs. Nominees
If there were some correlation, you'd expect the winners to be, generally, further to the left than the other noms. But looking at the graph, there's hardly any significant difference. In fact, the proportion of nominees with a score of 100 is greater than that of the winners.
NB/ the numbers were scaled to matching sizes.
I also looked at the number of winners that were the highest rated in their year - this works out at 22%. Which isn't amazing (a little over one fifth). And on top of that, the number of winners that were the lowest rated in their year works out at 18.3% (a little under one fifth).
So as I said in the short answer, there's not much of a correlation.
I also tried working with only the films since 1970, since most of the unavailable scores were for films prior to then. But the results were effectively the same.
Audience Knows Best
I created a few year-wise graphs, such as below (2009-2002)
and looking at them only confirmed the weak correlation between score and winning.
But one in particular stood out - 2005. In 2005, Crash won the award despite being the lowest rated of the nominees. But I'll come back to that.
The other one that got me thinking was 2008 - both Slumdog Millionaire and Milk got a rating of 94.
But it occurred to me that, maybe the reason Slumdog won was because it was more appealing to a wider audience. Think about it; Slumdog is a love story, whose protagonist overcoming adversity and against all odds, gets a happy ending. Milk is a biopic about a politician and gay rights activist who is assassinated. Both are top quality films, but Slumdog has wider appeal. And maybe that's important.
Granted, I'm exaggerating, a little, the weight of the effect of wider appeal for the sake of making my point. But you get the idea.
You have to bear in mind that the Academy Award for Best Picture isn't voted for by a handful of people with a potentially homogeneous taste - it's voted for by a comity of over 5,000 people. So having that wider apeal is going to help.
This would also explain why genre films tend to struggle.
Luckily, Rotten Tomatoes also has an "Audience" rating - a score out of 100, based on audience interest. And sure enough, Slumdog gets a score of 90, versus Milk with 88. Granted, it's a small difference, but it gives some credence to the theory.
So going back to 2005, I checked the Audience scores,
and indeed Crash was the highest audience rated.
Caveats
Firstly, Audience scores fall into two variations - "want to see/not interested", or "liked/disliked". Generally, the older films are in the former category, while the newer are in the latter.
And each of these have their own potential problems.
For the first, the problem is causality - did a film get the Oscar because a because of the wider interest, or are people interested in seeing it because it won an Oscar?
There are also psychological consideration. People are weird; when a film gets a generally strong (or poor) response from critics, this can influence people's opinions - some people like to hate things because everyone loves them. Some people are just influenced by their peers' opinions.
But these aren't really things we can test or adjust for.
The Audience score is also going to be loosely related to the critic score, in as much as they both relate, to some extent, to the films 'quality'.
Statistically Wiser
So as before, we have the score distribution
And, this is more what you'd want to see - the winners having a stronger tendency towards higher scores than the nominees.
Similarly, you can work out how many of the winners were highest rated in their year - in this case 36.6%; double the number for critic score. Similarly, the number ranked lowest in their year drops to 7.3%
And together, this supports the idea that there's a stronger skew towards higher scores, and thus that audience opinion is a better indicator of Oscar winners than critical opinion.
Of course, the better predictive power from the audience score could just be an example of wisdom of the crowd.
Obviously, this still isn't 100% predictive power, or even 50%. So it's far from perfect. I also tried various ways of combining both scores, but wasn't able to significantly improve on the results for audience scores alone.
Prediction 2011
Based on all this, I'd say the smart money for this year would be The King's Speech.
While it's only joint-third highest rated of the year according to the critics, it has the highest audience score of the nominees.
But then, everyone's expecting it to win anyway.
We shall have to wait and see...
Oatzy.
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